In this episode, Peter O’Toole sits down with Andreas Spittler and Derek Davies, two long-standing figures in the flow cytometry community.

Andreas and Derek look back on the unexpected routes that led them into flow cytometry and the moments that made their careers feel like the right fit. Andreas reflects on how his childhood ambition to become a teacher eventually found its place in university life, while Derek recalls how moving into a core facility opened the door to new experiments, technologies, and a wider scientific community.

They also discuss how flow cytometry has changed over the decades, the importance of supporting and training other scientists, and the challenge of stepping back from work that has shaped so much of their lives.

Along the way, Andreas shares the advice that guided his own career: find your niche, put your heart into it, and follow it with commitment.

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